well its looking like a crash and burn, because my company wont let me make these myself for a profit, i have to outsorce the work, and its going to cost me about $1700 to make 20 of them, thats $85 a piece, what am i supposed to do sell them for $150 just to pull an acceptable profit, sorry guys looks like ill only be making one for myself and maby a few here and there on special request for trade...bummer