No shit Junkyard. Just got rid of one that popped up on a dvd web site I went to and installed itself right in my face. After trying all of my precious little knowledge of these friggin things I put $5 on the computer table and told my son it was his if he could get rid of the virus. He basically rebooted the computer and took the $5. I asked him to show me how to do it myself next time. He won't.