I like the idea of just the bolts in the sides, my worry was about the support with it bolted in the side and no under support when you put weight on it. I like having the bar sticking up so I can strap stuff to it, like my lunch box for work, and for something for my little ones to lean on so they don't go over backwards. I like the idea of the tubes for the bar to set into like the last one, the one with the flames. I started liking that when I saw roadkills vid of him building his bike. LRT do you have any more pics of the one with the flames on it? Or other rigids with that style mounting?