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hughjardqok |
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I hear that the best mod for the bucks is a good port job on the intake... if so, who's the MAN when it comes to porting and how much scratch do I need to
dig outta the back yard to get it done?
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Ricky Racer |
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Ya might want to contact this guy. I've heard excellent things but I've never had him do a head for me... jmrieck1@comcast.net
His name is Mike Rieck and he's a long-time SOHC/4 board member. RR
If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room!
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myst1c |
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+1 on MReick. Dig around on the SOHC4 board and you'll find pics of his work. Granted porting is about way more than just appearance, and a nice looking
port can still flow like crap, but he seems to know what he's doing. If I were going to have a head ported, I'd email him first.
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Hondaholic |
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I did a port job on my head.
It's not too hard to do if you a small grinder with a flex shaft. I removed the shrouding around the valves and opened up the ports as much as possible. I
increased the exhaust port by about 1/4" and ported the exhaust flange to match it. The intake can't be opened up very much at all, mostly just
smoothed it up and reshaped the contour some at the valve. Still don't have it together, so don't know if I did a good job or not.
"Sorry I'm late, I got stuck behind a pack of Harley's".
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thechopperguy |
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Ken at Cycle Exchange
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cntrhub |
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Like Hondahaulasslic said, you do not want to hog out too much meat on the intake side. You open that puppy up you slow the air down. That is the last thing
you want. But you do want a slightly larger exhaust so to help the faster moving air out even quicker. Do too much and the overlap fresh fuel leaves with the
hot air you flowed it too good! That hog on the exhaust is the same increase the header pipe is so that hot air keeps moving.
Then on the exhaust side (still), you want something I forget what they call it, but think of a river bed and water moving over an down a rock? That speed down the rock from the upper part of the flow is that speed demon you do not want to hog out that step or "D" whatever port design that the engineers dream up, you want smooth straight flow in and out. Like one straight line. But you as a porter need to have a port bench. And if that person does not have a port bench... He's as good as you guessing at too so start using your fingers and some 400 grit and go after it. You have a finger and you blend every bump or ridge with any transition. You smooth and tit or bump that my slow a more smoother down the port all the way is that baby smooth no act knee face divots you fucked it up! It's a black art and head is the heart of HP. Only way you watch the HP increase year after year is a different port design of a new engine-redesign. |
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1machinist |
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This is really not an area for guess work, Its easy to go backwards on port flow blindly grinding especially on the short side
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El Wayno |
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Don't want to sound negative but a cam and maybe valve job is the way to go to quick ez Hp. Sure port work is great and it will help you get themost out of
what you have. But it is expensive, so dollar for dollar you are better doing other things first. Good port job might get you 5-10% more flow at peak. Good cam
and valve job should get a lot more.
Drunk Again In Hollywood, El Wayno
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JLeather |
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If you're running stock carbs opening up the heads will hurt your HP. The A/F mixture accelerates through the carbs and you wanna keep it moving fast. If
it hits a larger opening it slows down, and then it starts to puddle. For a stock-ish motor best thing you can do is just smooth up the transitions
(port-to-bowl, etc). You can definitely open up the exhaust side a bit, and make sure it's smooth between the exhaust spigot and the head (the spigots have
some restriction in them as well).
Don't forget, to port one of these heads you gotta remove the valve guides and press in new ones when you're done. It can be a bit tricky. |
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cntrhub |
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dqoc,
I boxed in these three just listen to that HP gain without any port work. Not only do you need a valve job, the guides in that old head are way out of spec is my guess. Try and find a good valve installer slash seat cutter slash a kiss on that worn seat is do you replace the seat is now weak you removed porting material. You probably will not weaken the seat insert, but money spent on HP is better spent on a newer slash new bike. You pour $$ in an old bike, blow it up spinning up the (old parts is a) 'fuse' is that something is going to blow somewhere is all about compression, not porting. You want to port a head with 70Pee Yes Eye said it is low on compression and you are ports of call is I lasso dee rode dee oh the 3 Amigos up ^^^ dare to tell you it is your bike, your head, your money spent the way you want to. Not my business or dare business telling you about valve jobs give good (head) HP. Port jobs alone blow year wad for knot thing is day fook is disshit! Suck is him into a port job and you HP my change mid-sentence. I need two watch you tree ye me goes is around ear. I think they meant I am getting too out of the loop is think where do you start if you are looking for HP? It sure is not the port flow yet. You can leave the head alone and blend the spigots call it a day. You want so bad that new valve guide pull and the seat cut fresh is to find a head fresh in a box with new valves. There is your HP change you have that cylinder found in a box with a bore job slash all the top end parts fresh will beat any port job you pick any bike here.... Sans a fresh top end that can pump some leak-down to 1%. You give 10 guys a 200HP bike and now everyone go take a lap. If you come back and say it was the bike after you were forced to witness 10 bikes to prove it was not the HP. You missed the compression slash dampen near perfect the settings are the same spec as the 200HP... No, you ride the spec bike. Now that you have all that HP under you, there are 9 others with the same HP.... YOU GOT BEAT! Did that port job (help) that is not now that important if you were handed all that HP and you got whooped is you could not handle way too much hp if you got whooped. Guy on the bike that won whooped the 200HP... Someone Port his head! Porting is a Catch22 is how I see porting. |
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myst1c |
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Can't argue with that
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