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Posts: 579 (04/23/08 2:38 PM) |
H.C.C.M.F tell me what your doing not what youve done
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Posts: 2126 (04/23/08 2:46 PM) |
It may sound shocking, but I'll be he's got close to that much into it. If he's really got $4500 into that paint (which is possible, it's
pretty nice), Ken's moderate motors run $2700, the frame around $1000, etc, etc. It doesn't look like he did anything himself, and if yer paying
someone else for custom parts they add up in a hurry (just ask JPS when eh gets his bill from Voodoo
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it, but best of luck to him.
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Posts: 907 (04/23/08 3:09 PM) |
That's pretty thin air up there! In my opinion, the guy spending that kind of dough wants it made "his way", not someone elses. BUT, compared
to what you get from HD for same money, it is a deal. I think he has the right price on it believe it or not. Just think there is only a niche market for such
since there is no "media" builder's name attached to it.
(BTW, my Voodoo bill is not going to be too too bad. Eric seems to be a great guy with "fair" prices)
"In the wind, with my mind on my money and my money on my mind"...now I just gotta get some.
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Posts: 2129 (04/23/08 4:26 PM) |
Glad to hear it man. Wasn't meaning to put-down a made-to-order bike, just illustrating a point. Hell, when I was rebuilding my vette to get from 95% done
to 100% done cost another $3k. Nickel and dime shit, man, nickel and dime.
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Posts: 909 (04/23/08 6:16 PM) |
No sweat JL. Didn't take it that way at all. Just thought I'd give my thoughts on this guys bike. Looks good though. I'd ride it for sure! I am
being very careful with how much I farm out as it CAN get VERY expensive. I have a certain hopeful plan for that bike (cover of THE HORSE). Besides, I figured
it would be cool to get Voodoo Choppers to go outside the box (something other than HD). This will be his first Honda powered bike even though he is not doing
the complete bike, just some tricky fab work.
"In the wind, with my mind on my money and my money on my mind"...now I just gotta get some.
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Posts: 1229 (04/23/08 9:36 PM) |
gotta hand it to him. He's got one nice ass chop!!!!!!!!!!!! I would love to be able to afford to have Ken build me a motor. I'll invest in that before
I buy another car or truck hehe. I want one Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!!!!! And that is some nice ass paint on that thing too. I'd say it's worth every penny
if not more . ALthough I do believe it would be hard to get that kind of price for it but you never know. Carpy got over 15,000 for one of his cafes last year.
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Posts: 2132 (04/24/08 3:53 AM) |
Yeah, but in terms of Hondas Carpy is almost a "big-name builder" in many respects. He hits a lot of shows in a lot of coutnries with his honda
stuff.
And JPS, you're gonna have some competition if I get my bike from Jeromy finished in time
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Posts: 882 (04/24/08 5:05 AM) |
Lot of money but one fine looking chop. Gotta love those tigman frames.
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Posts: 72 (04/24/08 7:28 AM) |
Love that paint job
100% done John, really? Exhaust optional hehe 
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Posts: 57 (04/24/08 8:57 AM) Senior Member |
I'm not afraid to say I think his BIN price is about 11 - 12K too high. Don't get me wrong, it's probably one of if not the nicest CB750's I've seen but let's cash a reality check and spend some of it reasoning this out.
Wish I had more time to rant about this but gotta split. |
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Posts: 574 (04/24/08 10:59 AM) |
to each his own. it is a very nice bike. i agree with Jerry. well engineered daily rider that was built by yourself. on a side note if you dont know you
get raped. i paid 3500 for my POS AMEN 2 years ago this mothers day. i did not know so i got raped. thanks to HC.com that will never happen again. me i
dont know how much i have dumped into this thing. but it all adds up. and i know that it was wayyyytoo much. but hey live and learn. is there someone out
there that will pay that much???????? indeed time will tell! i wonder what happened to that 6600 harley honda??? it was yanked off. i wonder how much that
went for.
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Posts: 911 (04/24/08 2:14 PM) |
JL, I saw the pics of your build, BAD ASS! I can't wait to see it done. PLEASE can I take it for a spin?
Jerry, I agree with you 100%. There is a certain feeling from building it yourself that cannot be measured or purchased. I know that feeling from cars and bikes. I do, on the other hand have a dilema. I am trying to create some parts of a bike I am not capable of producing currently. Maybe in the future, but not right now. SO, I must farm out some of the job. Does this still mean "I built mine"? Can I still wear the shirt without being a poser? Or should I not ride any bike I did not build, unless it be stock? Where do we draw the line between real and poser? Given respect or none? I have an answer. Everyone must find there own way to build their own. Some are indeed very capable. Some need help. It's attitude and I don't mean having a bad ass one. I admire those with the skills to scratch build. There are many here as I have witnessed. I am standing with my hat off to you gentlemen, and Jerry you might be one, I don't know. I will continue to learn and build my skills. It will continue to show in my work. I will welcome advice and help those in need. There is no difference in this from the work I am skilled and paid to do. Try doing for a hobby what I do for a living and see how hard it is to perform at my level. Many of my friends cook at home, never able to create as I do, but it does not make them less. They too have passion and love of the art. Its Attitude. And so maybe the guy that paid so much just to have a really cool bike had no place or skill to make it? Or maybe he's just a fool with money? ~Rant Over~
Blast away
"In the wind, with my mind on my money and my money on my mind"...now I just gotta get some.
Last Edited By: jpswino
04/25/08 4:24 PM.
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Posts: 2139 (04/24/08 3:17 PM) |
I gotta say, I'm not enough of a welder to trust myself to make a solid frame or a leak-free gas tank. I farm out shit like that, do what I can, stay
involved in what I can't, and ride what I like. If I build a bike from an Amen frame, or a Tigman frame, is it less "home-built" than if I made
the frame myself? Someday I hope to be enough of a welder to trust myself to a scratch-built frame. I have some badass ideas for some, but I gotta practice
more 'fore I trust my own ass to my own neck-welds. Hell, with any luck I still got 60 years to figure it out
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Posts: 672 (04/24/08 6:47 PM) |
Love the bike, Hate the front end. Needs a high end springer or girder.
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Posts: 1235 (04/24/08 7:18 PM) |
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm goods points all above. Now I've builts just about everything on my bike from plain ole flat stock metal. The frame no I have a cycleone
frame. Am I building a frame now yes. 3 years ago when I started building my bike I didn't even know how to weld. Today self taught I'm comfident
enough in my own work to knock out a frame and feel safe on it. Gas tank ? I need some more tooling to knock out the curves but someday soon I'll try that.
................. My motor yup rebuilt that sob myself and runs better than the first motor I had that I did pay to have built..... And then grenaded!!! From
shoddy mechanic work!!!! So no one will touch the inside of my motors again. ........................Ahhhhhhhhhh unless it'd be Ken..........Cause I
greatly admire his devotion and hard work and engineering he has put into these bikes. And not too mention they look so damn clean. He has porting and decking
machines things I'll prolly never be able to afford that can make a motor come together much nicer, and tighter.... Than I can do myself from picking
pieces off of different motors lying around our shop.
I've learned a fricking ton from the people on this site and sharing how to info. I'm now too the point where I have been able to go out myself and help other chopper headz in fixing their scoots and I'm happy to do so. But I learned it all here.........................Is the bike in question nice? Yes........... Especialy to me cause it has one of kens motors hehe... And a tigman frame they are super sweet..... The bike James and I are building now is a tigman frame and his shit is tight!!!!!!!!!!!! Shame to cover his welds with paint even they look so good.....................Does the guy get as many kudo points for farming out all the work...........Hmmmmmmmm prollly not but the bike is still nice. He obviously has more money than I. (and may very well be a board member here to learn how to put it together) That by no means, means I would bust a guy down for having it done. But as said before I would also have much more respect for someone who built his own ride..... Not every one can build a frame. ..............But oil tanks, controls handlebars, seats fenders wiring harness's and electric boxs and such. Yeah if you put your mind to it you can do it. You might do it twice and learn from the first one. But you'd be surprised what can be done with very little money or tooling. And just a lot of plain ole ingenuity................. The bike by the way I dig it.......... But that long pipe hmmmmmmm not my style or the handle bars. But that's what makes building bikes cool. Because they are not all the same. We all have different styles and taste....... Just like chicks some like'm big and some like''m small lol...... Done yup I'm done................ Now I'll just set back and watch to see if this things sells or even comes close to whats' being asked. No bids so far. |
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Posts: 697 (04/24/08 7:27 PM) |
It looks like a well done custom but, come on guys, those handlebars look fucking retarded! They look like an upside down boat anchor.
Probably won't even get an opening bid. |
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Posts: 678 (04/25/08 8:12 AM) Senior Member |
It's a nice bike for sure, but after spending so much money on it, I don't understand the retarded handle bards either. I would never pay that kind of
money for a garage built bike, never. If I was going to spend more than 5000 dollars on any kind of bike, I would be buying a factory bike from Honda,
Kawasakiy, etc. with all the reliability that comes with them. I don't doubt that this guy spend a lot of money on this bike, because it looks like the
most he did was putting the parts together, and by the way, I'm not trashing that, everybody does what they can do, I'm no expert builder. But to
expect to get that kind of money for a garage built chopper, you've got to be fucked up in the head. If you are going to have a bike built like that, do
it because you're going to enjoy it, ride the fuck out of it, and realize that you will never get back the money you put into it.
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Posts: 577 (04/25/08 10:52 AM) |
right around the time i bought my rigid amen, there was a 750 with a custom frame and a sugar bear springer all original and torn down and redone rebuilt motor
the whole 9 yards.......someone bought it now i remember for 18000. way better than that one, but still wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy outta my pricerange
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Posts: 921 (04/25/08 1:36 PM) |
It is interesting to hear the different responses to this post. It is ever so clear we all build a bike for a different reason. I find it interesting, not
argumentative, that some share the view a factory stock bike is more reliable than a custom. I am unsure, partially because we may all share a different idea
of the definition of garage built, whether a garage built bike is less reliable. Now surely a simple put together, using old parts that are still old, bike
will have issues to address regularly but I do not feel this bike hardly qualifies as such. Everything is brand new. Yes the actual metal may be vintage, but
it is brand new top to bottom. Albeit, there is no warranty. 18K seems like a really good deal for brand new considering this bike does have many high end
features a stock factory bike does not have including the paint and cool factor. I see all the sides and cannot argue for one or the other, yet still I believe
even though I say he is asking the correct price, I think he will be hard pressed to find a buyer given the current state of affairs in this country. I wish
him good luck, he'll need it.
Peace and Cheers, jps
"In the wind, with my mind on my money and my money on my mind"...now I just gotta get some.
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Posts: 1750 (04/25/08 2:51 PM) |
It all a matter of perspective. If you want something bad enough but you can't do the work for whatever reason, you pay someone else to do the work or walk
away without. Nobody can be good at everything. Someone might be looking at that bike right now telling themselves they HAVE to have it. Me? I see a really
nice CUSTOM (meaning not just snapped together) bike that has had a lot of 3rd party work put into it. Top notch, high dollar work. Paint alone is absolutely
wicked. I can't see putting that much into paint, much less an entire bike, but I'm permanently anchored on the practical side of the line.
Dependability is BUILT INTO the bike, whether by factory or by owner and preserved in how someone rides and maintains the bike. I can attest to this. The bars are a little odd to my eyes too, but then again a lot of guys like flat sided geometric gas tanks and I prefer a bike to have curves ( just like the other thing that used to pique my interest. Then I married her). Preference. Nothing more. Nobody right or wrong. I don't have half what he is asking in both my bikes, but I'm fine with that. I'm sure he is too if he gets what he's asking. 
It was Honda first, all through the middle, and if I have my way, till the end as well.
Most people say what they'll do. Very few actually do what they say. |
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Posts: 926 (04/25/08 4:20 PM) |
Well said my friend.
"In the wind, with my mind on my money and my money on my mind"...now I just gotta get some.
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